Comments on: Silverlight Deep Zoom is Nothing New for Flash http://blog.theflashblog.com/?p=351 Just another WordPress site Sat, 28 Aug 2010 04:03:14 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Michael http://blog.theflashblog.com/?p=351#comment-684955 Michael Wed, 07 Apr 2010 01:49:24 +0000 http://theflashblog.com/?p=351#comment-684955 Hi lee, First of all props to those who commented on this article by lee, pros and cons are highly constructive. Darren, I agree with you as these are the same points why the current company I'm with is using Silverlight. Lee, cool stuff what you did right here. Although I hope you fix the example site because its not working. Well, after 10 months of SilverLight from SL2 to now SL3 & 4 I think I'll move back to Flash. :j Back to topic, (1)I would like to know if flash has an answer to SL's deep zoom utilizing google maps api up to street level. (2)Plus tying it up with a real-time chat app (or GPS would be better) which points out the chatters exact location. This was done by my colleague in SL and as a flash developer I'd like to know if this can be done in flash as well and which of the two is more optimal in terms of design and development time + optimized rendering speed. Hi lee,

First of all props to those who commented on this article by lee, pros and cons are highly constructive. Darren, I agree with you as these are the same points why the current company I’m with is using Silverlight. Lee, cool stuff what you did right here. Although I hope you fix the example site because its not working.

Well, after 10 months of SilverLight from SL2 to now SL3 & 4 I think I’ll move back to Flash. :j

Back to topic, (1)I would like to know if flash has an answer to SL’s deep zoom utilizing google maps api up to street level. (2)Plus tying it up with a real-time chat app (or GPS would be better) which points out the chatters exact location.

This was done by my colleague in SL and as a flash developer I’d like to know if this can be done in flash as well and which of the two is more optimal in terms of design and development time + optimized rendering speed.

]]> By: Darren http://blog.theflashblog.com/?p=351#comment-637074 Darren Sat, 09 Jan 2010 01:31:27 +0000 http://theflashblog.com/?p=351#comment-637074 I really don't understand this fear of Silverlight that so many Flash designers seem to have. I've been working as a Silverlight contractor for a while now and the main reason people are adopting Silverlight over Flash is to keep technology within products consistant. By that I mean if a company has a lot of .NET server side code and services but they want to include specific client side elements beyond ASP.NET then Silverlight is a natural choice. It's not that Silverlight is better than Flash, it's because the company has .NET devs and .NET solutions which Silverlight sits naturally with. Another company which isn't developing solutions around .NET may well choose Flash. Maybe they have inhouse Flash devs or they just want to use an established technology. Silverlight isn't going away. MS is putting a lot behind Silverlight and WPF with Silverlight 4 due out with many new practical features such as printing. You may think printing is dull but I've been asked about this feature many times from clients and it's just one of those dull but practical needs companies have. Flash will no doubt evolve and continue to be strong and I expect other technologies will spring up to challenge both Flash and Silverlight. It's called progress and an open market, enjoy it. I really don’t understand this fear of Silverlight that so many Flash designers seem to have.
I’ve been working as a Silverlight contractor for a while now and the main reason people are adopting Silverlight over Flash is to keep technology within products consistant. By that I mean if a company has a lot of .NET server side code and services but they want to include specific client side elements beyond ASP.NET then Silverlight is a natural choice.
It’s not that Silverlight is better than Flash, it’s because the company has .NET devs and .NET solutions which Silverlight sits naturally with.

Another company which isn’t developing solutions around .NET may well choose Flash. Maybe they have inhouse Flash devs or they just want to use an established technology.

Silverlight isn’t going away. MS is putting a lot behind Silverlight and WPF with Silverlight 4 due out with many new practical features such as printing. You may think printing is dull but I’ve been asked about this feature many times from clients and it’s just one of those dull but practical needs companies have.
Flash will no doubt evolve and continue to be strong and I expect other technologies will spring up to challenge both Flash and Silverlight. It’s called progress and an open market, enjoy it.

]]> By: Jeroen http://blog.theflashblog.com/?p=351#comment-635501 Jeroen Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:02:30 +0000 http://theflashblog.com/?p=351#comment-635501 Haha you guys are just scared of the rise of Silverlight. Unlike Flash I can use native C# as behindcode. Even if the rest is equal, that feature kills Flash. Haha you guys are just scared of the rise of Silverlight. Unlike Flash I can use native C# as behindcode. Even if the rest is equal, that feature kills Flash.

]]> By: Zoom-Zoom – Flash OpenZoom SDK | Wolkenform http://blog.theflashblog.com/?p=351#comment-605173 Zoom-Zoom – Flash OpenZoom SDK | Wolkenform Mon, 05 Oct 2009 10:11:09 +0000 http://theflashblog.com/?p=351#comment-605173 [...] darin als innovativ bezeichneten Deep Zoom Feature  wies Lee Brimelow zurecht, in seinem Blog (http://theflashblog.com/?p=351) daraufhin, dass das Deep Zoom Feature von Silverlight gar nichts wirklich neues war und schon [...] [...] darin als innovativ bezeichneten Deep Zoom Feature  wies Lee Brimelow zurecht, in seinem Blog (http://theflashblog.com/?p=351) daraufhin, dass das Deep Zoom Feature von Silverlight gar nichts wirklich neues war und schon [...]

]]> By: Adam http://blog.theflashblog.com/?p=351#comment-572153 Adam Sun, 19 Jul 2009 16:17:44 +0000 http://theflashblog.com/?p=351#comment-572153 I don't care what anyone says about Silverlight. As most MS reproductions of established innovations, it will always be a second rate product. An after-thought of what they need to to do to stay competitive while Flash will continue to push forward into new realms. The issue with Flash though is that it tries to be everything. The 'do all' language sometime without regard to processing speed. Adobe is aware of these things though and as they push forward with things that no one ever thought flash would do, the speed issues will be corrected in last year's innovations that choked most browsers. I don’t care what anyone says about Silverlight. As most MS reproductions of established innovations, it will always be a second rate product. An after-thought of what they need to to do to stay competitive while Flash will continue to push forward into new realms. The issue with Flash though is that it tries to be everything. The ‘do all’ language sometime without regard to processing speed. Adobe is aware of these things though and as they push forward with things that no one ever thought flash would do, the speed issues will be corrected in last year’s innovations that choked most browsers.

]]> By: Charlie Parsons http://blog.theflashblog.com/?p=351#comment-561403 Charlie Parsons Tue, 23 Jun 2009 09:11:39 +0000 http://theflashblog.com/?p=351#comment-561403 Hi, If you want to see a real life example of how Deep Zoom and Silverlight can work to great effect, have a look at this page I created to show off Students' work: http://www.corsham.wilts.sch.uk/index.phtml?d=47322 Hi,
If you want to see a real life example of how Deep Zoom and Silverlight can work to great effect, have a look at this page I created to show off Students’ work:

http://www.corsham.wilts.sch.uk/index.phtml?d=47322

]]> By: Daniel Shaw http://blog.theflashblog.com/?p=351#comment-525993 Daniel Shaw Wed, 18 Mar 2009 18:52:01 +0000 http://theflashblog.com/?p=351#comment-525993 Johnathan, I had the same issue. You can view it directly on Zoomorama: http://wla.zoomorama.com/brimelow/af57bdeb17b5c8219ace9597eccf5b7a Johnathan, I had the same issue.
You can view it directly on Zoomorama: http://wla.zoomorama.com/brimelow/af57bdeb17b5c8219ace9597eccf5b7a

]]> By: Jonathan Wong http://blog.theflashblog.com/?p=351#comment-517430 Jonathan Wong Mon, 02 Mar 2009 07:36:47 +0000 http://theflashblog.com/?p=351#comment-517430 Is it just me, or does the DEA demo fails to load? Is it just me, or does the DEA demo fails to load?

]]> By: Piotr Lukaszuk http://blog.theflashblog.com/?p=351#comment-503181 Piotr Lukaszuk Mon, 26 Jan 2009 21:49:37 +0000 http://theflashblog.com/?p=351#comment-503181 I've used Daniel's OpenZoom framework in my DeepZoom project. Thanks Daniel. You can see the Flash version at http://mosaicmaniac.com/?c=Flash. It also works in Silverlight http://mosaicmaniac.com/?c=Silverlight and plain JavaScript http://mosaicmaniac.com/?c=SeaDragon Peter I’ve used Daniel’s OpenZoom framework in my DeepZoom project.
Thanks Daniel.
You can see the Flash version at http://mosaicmaniac.com/?c=Flash.
It also works in Silverlight http://mosaicmaniac.com/?c=Silverlight
and plain JavaScript http://mosaicmaniac.com/?c=SeaDragon

Peter

]]> By: Life As An Evangelist » Going beyond ?Deep Zoom? with Adobe Scene7 on the Flash Platform http://blog.theflashblog.com/?p=351#comment-488146 Life As An Evangelist » Going beyond ?Deep Zoom? with Adobe Scene7 on the Flash Platform Tue, 23 Dec 2008 19:14:53 +0000 http://theflashblog.com/?p=351#comment-488146 [...] or collection of images using a control in a Silverlight application. There have been numerous comparisons between existing Flash-based options such as Zoomify and Zoomarama and disagreement over whether [...] [...] or collection of images using a control in a Silverlight application. There have been numerous comparisons between existing Flash-based options such as Zoomify and Zoomarama and disagreement over whether [...]

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