Adobe and HP have just launched a new video showing Flash Player 10.1 and Adobe AIR 2.0 running on the slick, new slate device from HP. The video shows several types of content and is a great preview of what is capable when a device fully supports the web.
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Wow! It’s awesome! I’d like to see on all devices!
One sugerence to the company:
Why don’t you create Flash Apps like App Store or Android Market? It would have apps ready to download on diferent devices.
Thanks for your blog!
@Nacho Lopez
Check out http://marketplace.adobe.com/ to download AIR applications, the point of AIR apps and the Open Screen Project is to have AIR/Flash Player run on all devices so we won’t have to download a ‘blackberry’ version or ‘palm’ version.
Awesome! oh wait…it crashed..damn Windows OS.
Ok, this is gorgeous (and slightly AE-enhanced I’m guessing).
But I’m a producer who really wants to develop a particular thing for these not-quite-here devices and I know that I’ll want to release my stuff in a way that’s compatible with all tablet platforms.
If I go Flash > AIR, will I-Pad read AIR? Or do I have to go Flash (CS5) > I-phone? If the former, how to encode video that’s part of the app? If the latter, I presume that the video has to be online and non-flv, right?
Will AIR be playable on Windows 7 and Android?
And finally, is there an office at Adobe where new wannabe developers
can get good current information, from real people over the phone, about the Flash > AIR > hardware development path?
thanks, Craig
The iPad-Killer revealed! And it does Flash! Forget the Fred Flintstone iPad, and say helloooo to MR. SLATE! Looks pretty cool, I think I want one! HP Rocks!
I’d say I can see a little hole which looks like a webcam… So wait, we have most probably USB, Webcam, Flash… If the multi-touchscreen is as smooth as in an apple (and it seems like HP is investing a lot lately in multi-touch devices) I’d have no problems when choosing my tablet.
this runs windows 7 .. oh GOD !
it supports flash player 10.1 ! .. means i have access to tens of thousands of amazing “FREE” games and apps .. without paying 0.99 $ .. without installing them on the device !
i have access to all Air apps ..
i can watch videos on youtube for hours in one charge !
oh adobe .. look how “lazy” you are !!
really some people only learn the hard way !!
Hey guys, take a look at this article:
http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/does_html5_really_beat_flash_surprising_results_of_new_tests.php
Apple says this and that, but good old greed might be the all there is to the whole thing.
He said Touch Screen! Not Multi-Touch Screen. Its absurd to still release black and white TVs.
As long as Sony, HP, JooJoo, and the others run AIR and Flash, then iPhone might feel left out, they already have a reputation of having a tightly closed platform.
“fully supports web”…
how do you handle MOUSE_OVER events?
…maybe this was harsh…but i didn’t want it to be so…
Definitely, this is much more better than the iPad…but i can’t belive this supports 100% the content on the web
Too bad no one will buy it.
What we need to see emphasized are highly innovative Flash and AIR applications that do more than deliver video. Im personally tired of seeing Flash described as a means of merely delivering video. Apple could have easily made a case for abandoning Flash if they had maintained their QuickTime plugin architecture. The QuickTime engine was, at one point, very powerful and capable of doing amazing things, such as VR. Now that Flash has evolved to do those things on a much higher level, it would be nice to see more Adobe Flash Evangelists promoting things done using Flash that aren’t just video streaming sites or 2D games.
I can watch Hulu on the bus.. Epic! But will it be able to display my countless number of pdf e-books?
Can’t see the video on my iPhone, DOH!
@Jack – not so sure man, wait and see. Don’t let the HP name get you down. And no, I don’t work for them.
can it run crysis?
lol sorry had to do it
@hitchens
the slate running windows 7 .. just install adobe acrobat reader as you would do on a PC !
Hmm…the touch screen doesnt look too responsive.
Wait a minute… Did HP just kick Apple’s ass in terms of providing a complete rich user experience on the web with a mobile device???!!!
I’m a huge fan of Apple (2 computers, iPhone, AppleTV, AirPort…), but Apple’s nonsense about Flash on Safari mobile and non-Flash designers’ eagerness to jump onboard the Flash smear campaign is maddening.
Yes, there are some overblown masturbatory Flash designs out there with too many bells & whistles that grind things to a halt. (Guilty of this, myself, in the past.) But when used effectively, judiciously and appropriately, Flash can create feather-light, fast-loading, engaging and red-hot user experiences that blow all other platforms out of the water.
If HP is really pulling this off as advertised, I have hope for a sexier mobile user experience down the road.
Looks like Alan has been spending his bonuses on skiing recently. Nice google tan.
Whats that iPhone? You want to see all the rich multimedia applications on the web that was developed with ease? Oh whats that iPad? You want to too? Well, I’m sorry but Mr. Jobs says you can’t because you are too slow and incapable to run the flash player
. It’s too bad, so I guess your are going to have to sit out for the next decade, while all the other mobile devices get to see the rest of the web the way its suppose to.
This video is not playing nice here Firefox / Chrome / IE, Player 10.0 and 10.1
I’m glad to see 10.1 up and running, especially after the pretty weak presentation Adobe had at Flash Game Summit (If anyone from Adobe reads this, PLEASE show up with more intensive games for display, it’s a must if you want to impress the crowds). As for the HP Slate, my god technology turns me on sometimes.
Uhm, isn’t this device running Windows7? So, it’s just the exact same Flash plugin I run on my desktop? Little bit childish stab at the iPad “…what is capable when a device fully supports the web”. So no special version which is optimized for mobile devices? And because you use GPU acceleration there’s no battery usage?
@Henk Flash Player 10.1 is optimized for mobile devices and who ever said that GPU acceleration uses no battery?
Take that Apple Ipad! That’s why I won’t buy an Ipad.
The slate seems rather cumbersome, the person demonstrating it is having to stab the screen for each touch. So hard the device shakes in their hand!
nice apps shame about the device
Wow! This is so exciting! The device I have been waiting for! If this does perform as well as the Apple Ipad, it really makes it a one sided choice!
Wow! it also runs Windows 7!
But where ist Flashbuilder 4? Flash CS5?
When is Air available on Iphone, Android and Symbian OS?
It’s nice to see what the Flash Platform everything could do…
But what if I have to make the decision (js or Flash) now?
Until about 2 years ago it was not easy for Flash developers because of missing flash player installations in many companies.
Ok this is (was) no problem until the year 0 aakaa(after apple kicking adobes a…)
Adobe please help….
From my point of view this movie tries only defend the flashplayer idea and keep it alive on a market. Showing stats that 75% of videos are flash isn’t very convincing and doesn’t prove anything as this is for NOW, not the future. When we have HTML5 around the corner I would say that this 75% flash videos will drop down really fast below 50% and so on. The argument about leaving the web to watch movies in other format is really weak – admit, how many times you had to leave the web to watch video in other format?
AIR is the future for Adobe, not flash embedded videos.
So, cool, but “Slick” – no. WTF is that nasty pattern texture crap all over the back, and, um, it’s too small, and yeah, NOT slick at all…
At least it plays nice with the content I create ;\
wow, wide screen held as portrait seems so wrong.
we need products like this to highlight all the right choices apple have made. otherwise they would be just taken for granted.
all in all, hp tries to out-spec an apple device. years after the iphone lesson. PC never learn.
can’t wait to see how this fares against the ipad on the market.
Not to nit-pick, and I know the point of this is the Flash crap playing on the device (honestly, I’d rather pay for a TV show than have a glaring Tide commercial taking up half the screen while it plays …), but this shows exactly why the HP slate is not a competitor here.
0:53: Flick … pause … then screen scrolls. Weak responsiveness. And this isn’t even multi-touch!
1:43: Nice “avoid the crappy site navigation and Flash loading by switching to another tab” move. Yeah, Flash-based and Flash-heavy sites are a real *dream* to use when you don’t have to do any of that pesky Flash-based navigation!
2:49: Pandora takes FOREVER to load!
4:00: Nice single-touch interface. Can I introduce you to 2007?
4:15: “It brings a really immersive experience when I launch the video player” … I don’t think someone actually thought that sentence through. Does the fact that video plays on the device make it de facto immersive? Are Adobe’s standards that low? Because all that was happening there was video playing in a postage-stamp window on the screen. Hardly “immersive”.
4:26: Good thing I don’t want to solve the last three rows of that crossword puzzle. Or is there some kind of a magic scrollbar that AIR is hiding from us there? I mean, it’s already showing butt-ugly “matches no system in existence” styled scrollbars on the clue windows, so I have a hard time believing this was a style choice. Why is there no apparent way to see the bottom 10% of the puzzle? Which actually, of all the complaints here, speaks most directly to AIR apps: they often tend to be butt ugly. As seen here.
4:34: Those control and alt keys in the onscreen keyboard must be a dream to use without multi-touch! But, more importantly, the keyboard is untethered, so it will never be something you can touch-type with (yes, you can touch-type on a touchscreen) … I’m assuming that you can make it smaller so you can type into 28-down, right? I mean, when the keyboard hides half of the screen (and the apps don’t know where it is so don’t reconfigure when it’s up), it seems like you’ve built failure right into the OS.
4:57: Nice glare. I know, the iPad also can be glarey. More importantly, though, the colors are off when viewed off-angle. Which makes it harder to angle the device to avoid glare, which makes glare a serious issue where on the iPad it is just a nuisance.
At least one company is saying loud what a lot of users if not developers experience – slow sluggish Adobe products – hope will get other alternatives to Adobe – such as we are getting now HTML5 – goodbye Flash.
Palm sat on their crown and had a great fall – Adobe should be careful…
My guess for the reason flash is prohibited on the iDevices is to maintain the market for the App Store. If you could run flash on the idevice, they there would be a ton of games that could be sold not through the apple store. This would both be loss of revenue and control for apple. Personnally, I’ve never been a huge fan of all Flash web sites, but Flash used strategically makes sense.
I have been working with Apple products since 1985, and with Adobe since Photoshop 2. Since Adobe’s merger with Macromedia, and their embrace of Flash – the company and the mood surrounding the company has been corporate and short sighted in the worst way. The products look less and less appealing, are more feature laden with less meaning behind the features, and have become less fun to use. Apple’s decision not to use Flash is, in my opinion, simply a smart move away from a company that has been on a downward spiral for several years now.
Why would Apple leave technology ? Flash is used on many sites.
If it is because of memory and batterylife ? Well… I would like to do whatever I please with my iPad.
Screw them. Apple is starting to become an uptight company for groupies and faggs. In 2025, Apple decides to stop whiping after going to the toilette.
I think Apple is just getting greedy. Apple wants to own EVERYTHING. It is trying to create a closed user ecossystem where consumers are stuck with Apple’s hardware and software.
Anyways, forget the iphone… check out the new HTC Desire:
http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/index.php/htc-desire-review
Better. Cheaper. It runs Flash.